Bill wanted to show everyone both the spindles he made. The one with the dark (black walnut) handle is "MINE"! He's been having so much fun making them. Not being a spinner himself he's been relying on what I say and what he reads. I also have about 8 spindles for him to compare against. These are the same weight or less of my favorite spindle which is kinda large. Its hard to get perspective. The Lathe is NOT a huge machine.. its called a Midi Lathe because its a fraction of the normal size. He used wood from tree limbs from our yard.. Maple and Cherry. The Black Walnut was from a small piece of wood his friend Lynn Weekly gave him YEARS ago. Lynn was/is a very special guy. We lost track of him after his back surgery. He went on the road in his motorhome. I hope he's enjoying life like he always did. I sure appreciate the beautiful piece of wood he gave us. If for some reason he sees this "CALL" damn it!